We cannot “meditate”: we only can be in meditation.
I promise to correct myself
Sahasrara Day puja 1984 Second day, – questions Mesnieres en Bray, France
Sahaja yogi: “Shri Mataji, how can we please you best?”
Shri Mataji: I have no desires. I don’t know. You see, inside me is complete peace and complete satisfaction. There is nothing that is needed inside. But the ripples of that joy flow outward all the time. And when it reaches your shores, you see, it comes back. And it weaves a beautiful pattern, and I see the pattern. The reciprocity, how much you reciprocate, is the way the pattern is beautiful. It’s delicate, it’s powerful. It’s so soothing and it weaves the complete beauty of bhakti. So much so that this ocean of joy itself gets turbulent, and I really swing with it. And it is not easy to describe that beautiful feeling of tremendous joy. The first thing you have to know that I love you very much, with all my heart, with all my soul. In the same way try to love me with all sincerity and trust.
May God bless you all! 
Now, I speak for one minute about this meditation.
Yesterday [see the talk before the puja] I told you about putting your attention to different areas, the pradesha or the chakras. And the chakras, as you know, have got mandalas, are the patterns. So, when you pay attention to the chakras, where do you pay attention to, is the point.
Actually you pay attention to the deity. Now, this deity, supposing you are taking the name of Shri Ram. You are trying to establish Shri Ram within your heart, right Heart Chakra. Now at that time what do you do? You say the mantra.
But there’s another way which is easier, because you are saying a mantra in a way that is not so much intelligible there to Shri Ram. But first of all if you study the qualities of Shri Ram, what were his qualities? And if you manifest those qualities through your character, then it’s very easy to please Shri Ram.
What is the quality of Shri Ganesh? He’s entirely surrendered to Mother, even Father doesn’t bother Him. What is the quality of Christ? He forgives those who have crucified Him. He can go through all kinds of tapas. What is the quality of Shri Krishna, for whom everything is a leela? Like that, when you take the name of Shri Krishna, do you see everything as a witness? If effortlessly that happens to you, you should know that you have established Shri Krishna.
(…) So, among the seven colours, I am the green color because I am of the Center. Green is the color that comes from Mother Earth. She absorbs all the problems, and she gives you the best of herself. Start with Mother Earth, and you will start with the Kundalini. That’s the way one should begin to imbibe the form of the pure Kundalini, of Mother who is purity, the purity that purifies.
But, are you pure? Are you pure in your heart? Simply think of it…Start with the purity. This is how you have to establish the different chakras, and after that, when they all are purified, you will have established Me.
So, we understand that that now we have to grow inside and outside, spreading our light horizontally around us. Only when you will become same as deities that your light will spread horizontally, otherwise, not. This is what we say when someone obtains the siddha (power of a specific deity). He is the siddha of Shri Ganesha, the siddha of Shri Krishna. So, first if you develop the external powers of the deity – goodness, compassion, being the witness of the Play, and all the others – then you will be able to develop the other qualities which are on the destructive side. First you have to develop the constructive side, and the destructive side will follow automatically, you don’t have to worry. Like one side Shri Krishna was playing with simple cowherds (the gopis), and on another side He killed the demons. So, first become like Him and, after, automatically you will obtain the other powers.
One does not give swords to stupid people isn’t it? One has to understand that we have to develop these qualities of construction that all these Incarnation had, and after the destructive qualities will be given to you…..
(…) I hope that when you are back home you will not forget my words. Try to concentrate on your pradeshas (territory of the Deities in the chakras), the areas of your different chakras, on those that are not all right, that are weak, and try to nourish them with these qualities. On the same way, nourish those which are correct by understanding the qualities of the deities….After the seminar, you must remember my words on this topic; you must concentrate on a Deity to imbibe his qualities, otherwise you do not have the communication with this deity, and then it is useless to repeat his mantras…
(…) I hope to live long enough to see the accomplishment of this second age. All of you, today, you should say: “I promise, Mother, that now I will correct myself for my own benefit, and I will project my spirit to find out how to spread with discrimination Sahaja yoga to the others”– with discrimination! -you are not going to speak about Sahaja Yoga to a bull!
The state of meditation. Gudi Padwa, Delhi, 1976-03/30:
We cannot “meditate”: we only can be in meditation.
When we say we are going to meditate, it has no meaning. We have to be in meditation.
Either you are inside the house or outside the house. You cannot be inside the house and then say that, “Now I’m outside the house”. Or when you are outside the house, you cannot say, “I’m inside the house”. In the same way, you are moving in three dimensions of your life, of emotional and physical and mental being. You are not inside yourself. But when you are inside that, you are in thoughtless awareness. Then not only that you are there, but you are everywhere - because that is the place… that is the point where you are really universal. From there you are in contact with the principle, with the shakti; with the power that permeates into every particle that is matter, into every thought that is in motion, into every planning and thinking of the whole world.
You permeate into all the elements that have created this beautiful earth. You permeate into earth; you permeate into ‘Akasha’ [Sanskrit for ether], into ‘Teja’ [light], into sound. But your movement is very slow.
When you say, “I’m meditating” – that means you are moving in permeation with the universal being. But you are not moving yourself. You are just unloading yourself, to be free from the weight of things that do not allow you to move.
When you are in meditation, you must allow yourself to be in thoughtless awareness. There, the unconscious itself, the ‘Achetana’ itself will take charge. You will start moving with the force of ‘Ateeta’ [beyond]. The unconscious is going to work it out. It is going to take you there, where it wants you to go.
You keep to thoughtless awareness all the time. Try to keep to thoughtless awareness as much as you can. When you are in thoughtless awareness, you must know that you are in the kingdom of God and His people, His arrangements, His consciousness, are going to look after you.
Even when you are giving vibrations to other people, I have noticed that you are not in thoughtless awareness. If you give vibrations in thoughtless awareness you will not catch anything. Because all these entities that enter into you, all these material problems that come into you, come when you are in those three dimensions. Through Sahaja Yoga, you have opened your gates of your own being; you have entered into your own kingdom. But you do not keep there: you come out of it and again you go back and settle down – doesn’t matter. You should not feel so disappointed about it, so frustrated. You know people have worked for thousands of years and they could not separate themselves from themselves.
Only you people – the Sahaja Yogis, whom are made after the pattern of Shri Ganesh himself – are so powerful that they can give awakening and realization to other people.
Even if you are caught up, you have seen you have powers. Even if you feel that the vibrations are not coming, you know you have powers. You can give realizations to others. In your presence people get realization. But you have to be that power completely. Supposing there’s something wrong with your car but it moves and as long as it is moving, it’s all right. You have to repair it. You have to repair all the time all our wounds, which we have caused ourselves by our foolishness, by our lust, by our greed, by so many false identifications we carried with ourselves. We must have a complete attention towards our weaknesses and not towards our achievements. If we know what are our weaknesses, it’s better that we can really swim across better.
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Everybody is ascending individually - though you are collectively contacted with each other and in communication – but the ascendance is individual, absolutely individual. So whether he is your son, brother, sister, wife, friend, you must remember that you are not responsible for their ascendance. You cannot help them for their ascendance. Only Mother’s Grace and their own desire, their own effort to give up all that is three dimensional, will help them.
So whenever a thought comes like that, you must know that you have not attained the thoughtless awareness in its full extent. And that’s how you have problems, which are three-dimensional. Sometimes, a Sahaja Yogi will find an emotion will come into his mind – it will be an emotion of dejection or frustration – and he will be disgusted with himself or with others. Both things are just the same. I have seen some Sahaja Yogis get very disgusted with others. There should be no disgust that is lasting. Of course for a short time you might feel a disgust, it’s all right - it’s a passing phase. Or you might feel disgusted with yourself – may be a passing phase. But if you go on hankering on to it, or if you go on clinging to it, that means you are conditioning yourself; that means you are not in thoughtless awareness. That means that you are in your past. You are making your past a solid mass on your head.
In the present everything is fleeting. Everything is fleeting that is not eternal. In the present, the eternal stays, the rest all drops out. It’s like a moving river which doesn’t stop anywhere, but the moving river is eternal, the rest of the things are all changing. If you are on the eternal principle, all that is not eternal changes and drops out, dissolves, and becomes nonexistent.
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So when Sahaja Yogis ask me, “What should we do for meditation?”:
Be in thoughtless awareness!
That’s all. Don’t do anything!
That’s all. Don’t do anything!
Not only you are moving towards the goal, or that the unconscious is taking charge of you.
Not only that, but also that you are emitting, for the first time, the divine into the nature, into your surroundings, into other people who are universally connected to you.
Not only that, but also that you are emitting, for the first time, the divine into the nature, into your surroundings, into other people who are universally connected to you.
(…)Then we have prayers and we have also Puja, if said in your heart, with the feeling of complete surrendering, and asking for the eternal, it will be granted.
All the Sahaja Yogis have a problem. And they have problems because of their past, because of their future aspirations. Now when you have problems, in Sahaja Yoga you have learnt how to overcome them. There are so many methods other than meditation - you know them very well; that you must know what is the Chakra, where the Kundalini is. Now if the Kundalini has been stopped by a certain Chakra, which is not working, you shouldn’t get frustrated about it. Supposing your instrument or your car has stopped on the way, what’s the use of getting frustrated with it? You have to learn the mechanism; you have to be a good technician and then you can manage it very well. So all the techniques of Sahaja Yoga must be learned and mastered. This you can only do by giving it to others and learning from correcting them and correcting yourself. There is nothing to be frustrated. That’s the worst thing.
If you get frustrated and unhappy with yourself, then there is going to be a problem. You have to laugh at yourself and laugh at your mechanism that is out of gear. When you start identifying yourself even with the instrument, then you are not there.
You are not the Chakra, you are not the different Channels – you are the Awareness!
You are the Power. You are the Kundalini.
I can say how Tulsidas has said, “Jaise rakha hu, taise hi rahu” (You keep me as You like). That kind of an attitude takes your attention inside, because outside it is let alone to the dogs. …and you will be surprised everything clicks out very well. Even, sometimes, you might feel: “I should reach a certain place, I must have this Bhajan done, I must get these things done” and it’s not done sometimes. Sometimes by mistake something as you want is not done. You must accept it as the will of God: “That is what He desires – it’s all right.” That is the desire of God and now you are one with His desire. You are here to communicate the desire of God to the whole world. At this stage if you start having your own desires and ideas about yourself, then when will you become the desire of God? This I-ness has to go away.
That is what meditation is – where you are no more ‘I’, but it is ‘You’.
To meditate: a travel within towards the Divine, Devi Puja, Sydney, Australia:
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Excerpt from advice given in London, on 1st of January, 1980
In the same way vibrations are coming, they are radiated. What you have to do is to expose yourself to it. The best way is not to put in any effort.
Do not worry as to where you have a problem. You just don’t have to worry. You just let it go and it will work by itself. So you do not have to put in any effort. This is what meditation is.
Meditation means exposing yourself to God’s grace. The grace itself knows how to cure you. It knows how to mend you, how to settle down itself into your own being, how to keep your spirit kindled. It knows everything, so you do not have to worry as to what you have to do or what name you have to take, what mantras you have to do. In meditation you have to be absolutely effortless, expose yourself fully and you have to be absolutely thoughtless at that time.
If you are not thoughtless, at that time you have to just watch your thoughts, but do not get involved into them. You will find gradually, as when the sun rises, darkness goes away and the sun’s rays go into every part and make the whole place enlightened. In the same way, your being will be completely enlightened. But if you put in an effort at that time or try to stop something within you, it will not happen. Effortlessness is the only way into meditation, but you should not be lethargic about it. You should be alert and watch it.
The other side could be that people just doze off. You have to be alert. If you doze off nothing will work out. That is another side of it. If you are lazy about it, nothing will work out. You have to be alert and open, absolutely aware, completely effortless, absolutely effortless. If you are absolutely effortless, meditation will work the best.
Do not think about your problems at all. Just expose yourself to the vibrations. When the sun shines, all of nature exposes itself to the sun and receives the blessings of the sun effortlessly. It does not put in any effort. It just receives the sun. The sun’s rays start acting. In the same way, the all-pervading power starts working.
You are not to maneuver it. You are not to do anything about it. Just be effortless, absolutely effortless. It is working out. It will go on working as long as it can and it will do the miracle that it has to do. You do not have to worry about it. It knows its job, but when you put an effort, you actually create a barrier for it. So no effort is needed. Be absolutely effortless and say, "Let it go, let it go." That’s all.
In the same way vibrations are coming, they are radiated. What you have to do is to expose yourself to it. The best way is not to put in any effort.
Do not worry as to where you have a problem. You just don’t have to worry. You just let it go and it will work by itself. So you do not have to put in any effort. This is what meditation is.
Meditation means exposing yourself to God’s grace. The grace itself knows how to cure you. It knows how to mend you, how to settle down itself into your own being, how to keep your spirit kindled. It knows everything, so you do not have to worry as to what you have to do or what name you have to take, what mantras you have to do. In meditation you have to be absolutely effortless, expose yourself fully and you have to be absolutely thoughtless at that time.
If you are not thoughtless, at that time you have to just watch your thoughts, but do not get involved into them. You will find gradually, as when the sun rises, darkness goes away and the sun’s rays go into every part and make the whole place enlightened. In the same way, your being will be completely enlightened. But if you put in an effort at that time or try to stop something within you, it will not happen. Effortlessness is the only way into meditation, but you should not be lethargic about it. You should be alert and watch it.
The other side could be that people just doze off. You have to be alert. If you doze off nothing will work out. That is another side of it. If you are lazy about it, nothing will work out. You have to be alert and open, absolutely aware, completely effortless, absolutely effortless. If you are absolutely effortless, meditation will work the best.
Do not think about your problems at all. Just expose yourself to the vibrations. When the sun shines, all of nature exposes itself to the sun and receives the blessings of the sun effortlessly. It does not put in any effort. It just receives the sun. The sun’s rays start acting. In the same way, the all-pervading power starts working.
You are not to maneuver it. You are not to do anything about it. Just be effortless, absolutely effortless. It is working out. It will go on working as long as it can and it will do the miracle that it has to do. You do not have to worry about it. It knows its job, but when you put an effort, you actually create a barrier for it. So no effort is needed. Be absolutely effortless and say, "Let it go, let it go." That’s all.
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1983-03/14:
Whatever you have been doing, going out to find the joy -the so-called joy, the so-called happiness, the so-called glory of worldly powers and worldly possessions- you have to reverse back the whole thing. You have to project within yourself. It was not wrong that you went out, it was not correct that you went out, shouldn’t feel sorry for what you have done so far. It was not the correct way to get to the real joy of life, the real glory of your being. (…)
Try to meditate, meditate more so that you reach your inner being. And this inner being, is the vast ocean of bliss which exists in every one of us; is that vast glorifying flood of light that floods everybody’s inner beauty. So to approach it, you have to go within yourself by denying things, which are against it, against your movement. Sometimes the wind can be very, very strong for you to misunderstand that the glory of God is within. To turn back, every moment remember that your movement has to be inward. When you move inward you forget the ideas of your outer glories. We are all Saints; you have to leave every thing to God. In the beginning in Sahaja Yoga everybody says, “My husband is like that, my wife is like that, my brother is like that, the children are like this. Mother, look after them!”; all right, in the beginning is all right. When you grow you must get out of it.
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It’s an individual journey towards God when you meditate, and when you reach there then you become collective. Before that, it’s an absolute individual journey within, absolutely individual journey.
No one exists there.
No one exists there.
You should be able to see this. You are in this journey, nobody is your relation, nobody is your brother, nobody is your friend, you’re absolutely alone, absolutely alone. You have to move alone within yourself. Don’t hate anyone, don’t be responsible, but in meditative mood you’re alone. No one exists there, you alone, and once you enter into that ocean then the whole world becomes your family.
The whole world is your own manifestation. All the children become your children and you treat all people with equal understanding. The whole expansion takes place when you enter inside your Spirit and see, starting through the eyes of the Spirit. Such calm, such peace, such bliss exists within you. You have to be ready for that journey.
That journey is alone in your meditativeness and the more you find something in your meditation the more you want to go and distribute it to others.
That has to be so. If that does not come into you, then it has not worked out; there is no purity, there’s some sort of a bias. In that individual pursuit, whatever you find, you want to enjoy it with others, you want to give it to others. This is the sign of a person who has been really meditating. The one who is meditative and has not been able to distribute what he has found, is cheating himself, and cheating others as well, because that joy that you receive in your meditation has to be distributed, has to be given, has to be shown. That journey is alone in your meditativeness and the more you find something in your meditation the more you want to go and distribute it to others.
It should flow in your being as a light radiates from every illumined lamp. We don’t have to take a vow to say “this is an enlightened light”. In the same way, a saint should not be certified that he is a saint. The depth you achieve within yourself spreads all over; it is such an action and reaction. The deeper you become, the radiation is much more. A simple person, very ordinary person, uneducated person, can be like that. We have, you know, one gentleman called Pardik (sounds like) in Bombay, he’s an old man, he’s so deep, he radiates! People depend on him, he radiates love, so meditative!
You don’t have to spend too much time on meditation, but whatever you spend time, whatever your gain is, has to be visible outside, how you radiate and how you give it to others.That’s the quality of the saints you have to be. Unless and until you become deeper we cannot save other Sahaja Yogis and we cannot save those who are not Sahaja Yogis. You have to rise higher and higher to pull the whole curtain up. Those who try to rise higher pull the whole thing upward and they give a pull to everyone who ascends with them.
So just try to keep your aim clear cut. Must understand what is your aim in life as Sahaja Yogis. Now you are changed people. You are no more people who have to deal with possessions or worry about them, about mundane things, about your livelihoods. You are no more people who have to worry too much about your health and things, or your personal lives. You are not also about your jobs so much, that’s not important and last of all not to worry about your family, children, husband, wife and find a pocket for you to hide into it. Because the only thing where you can really hide yourself is the love of God, where you can really get the great restful, blissful, feeling of his complete protection.
Of those who do not meditate. Shri Adi Shakti Puja, Cabella, 1993-06/06:
But if you people are not meditating – it’s a very mundane thing I must tell you – Dhyanagamya(*) – if you are not meditating, then I have no relationship with you. You are not My relation. I… you have no right on Me!
You have no question to be asked, why this is happening, why that is happening. So if you do not meditate – I always say meditate, meditate – I have nothing to do with you. You are no more there for Me. It has no connection with Me. Then you are like all other people.
You may be Sahaja Yogis, you might have got your Sahaja Yoga degrees from your leaders, maybe, I don’t know! And maybe that you are regarded as something very great. But if you do not do your meditation every day, evening, morning or evening, you will be really not anymore in the realm of Shri Mataji. Because the connection is only through dhyana – through meditation.
I have known people who do not do meditation. Then they suffer, their children suffer, then something happens; then they start coming and telling me. But I see clearly that the person is not meditating, I have no relationship with him. He has no right to ask me anything. In the beginning of course, the meditation takes some time.
The state of thoughtless awareness: minimum of minimum
Diwali Puja, Lake Piru, California, 2002-11/03:
Every day you should do meditation. Those who do not do meditation are capable of falling down, because meditation is like putting oil into the lamp. Those who do not meditate, think they can do without it, are sadly mistaken. They have to meditate morning and evening.
The problem is everything comes so handy, so simple, that they don’t understand that meditation is very important – many people. Not you, but there are many I know who get realization, who don’t meditate and their style is different, their nature is different. Meditation is such a soothing thing, such a beautiful way of connection with the Divine, that all your problems get solved in that meditative mood. If you are not meditating, you are not following meditation, then maybe your light will go down, it won’t give sufficient light. It’s important, very important to find out about yourself, about others in the meditation. How to do meditation, many people ask Me.
Don’t do anything, to just go into thoughtless awareness. Try to go to the thoughtless awareness.
If you can get into that condition of thoughtless awareness you’ve done your job, because that’s the point where you are with the truth, with the reality, with the joy, with everything that is so fundamental.
When you meditate try not to, not to make some sort of a function out of it, no! Meditation is something silencing yourself, silencing your thoughts and going to that deep ocean which is within you itself.
Those who do not meditate are always hesitating and they are confused, they can’t understand; and that’s why meditation is the most important thing in Sahaja Yoga.
Just like a light burns with the electricity flowing in it, you can say, or by, because of the candles, in the same way meditation is a continuous availability of the divine Force. That will reduce all your apprehensions.
Not only that but takes out all the negative thoughts, it takes out all the discouraging thinking.
And when you are meditating like that, thoughtless awareness, then you’ll be amazed how you are helped from within and without. It’s a terrible power that works, this thoughtless awareness! So those who do not meditate cannot go very much far with the advantage of Sahaja Yoga. One should try to meditate and go up to the point of thoughtless awareness. So what happens to you?
If you are in thoughtless awareness, what happens to you is that you get the confidence, complete confidence of Divinity, you know you have that. I have seen children coming from our school in Dharamsala, extremely confident and extremely humble. And I asked them, “What do you do?” They said, “Mother, we meditate. We meditate in the school in the evening, and that meditation helps.” Imagine these small children can say that; so why not you also understand it, that meditation will give you security? It will give you a real enlightenment and a complete connection with the Divine. Without the connection of the Divine, what’s the use of doing Sahaja Yoga?
I know the people who are meditating, who have gone down into their being and who are very developed. Also I know people who are a little superficial.
Your depth is in thoughtless awareness. It’s a very important point which you should reach. Looking at anything, if you are thoughtlessly aware then you really become reflective about it, it just works out that way.
I don’t know how far you can remain in that condition, but (if) even for a second you can achieve it, you start achieving it more and more. … So thoughtless awareness is the first point all of you should achieve – very important. After that we can achieve something else, but the first step is thoughtless awareness. It’s very important to become thoughtlessly aware, because then there are no thoughts coming from the left or right, from the present or the future. Just in the present you are there. It’s something you all have, it’s not that I’m saying that to you, but all of you have this; but steady yourself! You have to steady yourself at thoughtless awareness. How long – that’s not the point. The point is once you’ve touched it, you’ll go on touching it.
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Now this is the one point which is very important. If you have to grow, you should be absolutely in connection with the Divine through thoughtless awareness. You don’t have to pray, you don’t have to call anyone, nothing! It just works because it is within you. If all these thoughts are bombarding you from both the sides in your mind, these thoughts that are coming to you have no meaning with you, they do not substantiate. Yourself, you are an ocean and you have to get into that state of thoughtless awareness.
It is always described in all the great books, but not so clearly as I am telling you. I don’t say that some of you who do not get thoughtless awareness, so they’re good for nothing – no. But please try! You can all get into that state of thoughtless awareness. Even for a second if you get it, it’s a very good idea; then you go on increasing that second.
I think it’s, it’s a reflecting mind. When you look at something you will become thoughtlessly aware, and then the mind reflects to the depth of what you see. That’s how you all will become really very creative Sahaja yogis. What I find, that this state of thoughtless awareness is not established by many, which is not good.
Today, on this day of Diwali, I would say that you enlighten yourself with thoughtless awareness. It is not difficult. It’s within you, because thoughts are coming from this side and that side and they are not the waves of your brain, no – just your own reactions. But in case you meditate in the real sense of the word, then you’ll get into that thoughtless awareness which is a very important point, and all these nonsensical thoughts which are of no use to you will disappear. They won’t be there, and then your growth is possible and you’ll grow very well.
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Many people are here who will say, “But Mother, we don’t get that state” – try; try that! I don’t believe you cannot get it. All of you can get that thought that “I can get it” and you will get it. In that you don’t have to discard anything, you don’t have to see anything, just go into meditation and you’ll be amazed how it will work out. Of course you are very much there, most of you, but still I would say, increase that thoughtless awareness, that area.
(…)So today’s message is that while meditating, go into thoughtless awareness. No thought is important, because it’s your own creation.
But if you have to become with the divine creation, you have to get to that state of thoughtless awareness, minimum of minimum. Once that comes to you gradually it will grow, and you will be amazed how you’ll be able to grow into Sahaja Yoga in a very big way.
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OPEN THE AGYA AFTER REALIZATION
One has to read all these books and all these instructions to put in an effort to go into Meditation. All these efforts are actually to lead to the conviction that meditative state is to be achieved through effortless surrendering.
Up to the Agnya centre is all right when you are trying to say different mantras but you will find all the time that the Kundalini stops or is blocked at the Agnya.
The reason for this is that when you put effort you work through your Agnya, not effortlessly.
So those who are in bhakti they just have to become silent and effortless.
So the Kundalini passes through Agnya and clears out through Sahasrara.
With bhakti only you can counteract your Agnya.
Now the situation of ascent at Agnya is the most difficult. The reason is if you try to, by pulling or pushing your Kundalini through Agnya, you are using an effort: once you use the effort you block your Agnya. So at the blockage of Agnya if you just leave the Kundalini to work it out by itself, then your Agnya will be cleared out. But in bhakti with full heart if you are singing or if you are taking my Name then automatically Agnya opens.
But it's a little complicated thing for people who are very much active with their Agnya, For such people it would be better if they develop the state of thoughtless awareness. When they watch something they should just try to just watch it and do not allow any thought to come in. You can go on saying, 'Ksham, Ksham, Ksham.' These thoughts will stop.
Try to maintain that state through your--again-the sustenance of bhakti.
So the important thing in Sahaja Yoga is after realization we must completely surrender ourselves to the enjoyment of bhakti.
Those who have achieved that, they get this effortless ascent through the Agnya very easily. It cannot be explained, as l said . There is no rule and regulation for bhakti but definitely it can be seen in other Sahaja Yogis who are just in that state of bliss.You can find out that there is adoration from their heart for their Guru and an awe. They do not say, 'No', they do not question, they do not guide or correct their Guru. They just are in an absorbing state, as if a big ocean is pouring into them the joy and the bliss.
This state is revealed in day-to-day behaviour towards their Guru.
How they behave and how they talk to their Guru is very important. For example some people come very close to Me, they know how to look after Me, they know how to rub My feet or maybe they know how to look after My food and My day-to-day needs but still if they do not have that protocol, if they do not have that innate idea of reverence and a deep adoration then they are not yet at that stage where they should be. And gradually such people then go on falling because they still have not yet fathomed the depth of their being which can respond to the greatness of their Guru.
lt is a very delicate thing for Me to tell you how to behave and sometimes it upsets Me and shocks Me when people start taking liberties in a way that will be responsible for their fall or for their losing their state.
I find it impossible to tell them that they must learn how to speak to Me and how to behave towards Me .
I have seen that most of the leaders have this sense and have this capacity to absorb this ocean of love and joy.
But there are so many Sahaja Yogis who are still-though they may be very close to Me--are not up to the point that they should be. Sometimes they argue, sometimes they deny, sometimes they defy.
Now one may ask that this kind of surrendering may lead to your slavery. In slavery you get pain, torture and unhappiness but in this slavery you get joy, complete freedom, strength and the beauty of your own glory. So whether you call it as a slavery or anything it makes no difference to the quality of this surrendering which is very very important if you want to discover your own glory .
Actually what to surrender is your ego, your conditioning.
Some people have a habit of dominating, so when they are close to Me, they try to dominate Me also. Or if they have the habit of arguing, when they are close to Me, they start arguing with Me. That behaviour has to be changed. The way you talk to each other you cannot talk in the same manner to your Guru because your Guru is at a much higher position and you have to realize that if you have to reach that state of 'Turya' then you must put your Guru above everybody else.
"l never asked you to read Gurugita because it is too much to be told to Sahaja Yogis, too much to be asked from Sahaja Yogis. l feel there are so many Sahaja Yogis who are still not there at the point to understand what this surrendering means and that is the reason I just never wanted you to read Gurugita which was told by Shri Mahadeva to Parvati.
That state of surrendering is not with efforts, not with thinking, but has to come effortlessly. It's like dissolving a drop of your personality into the ocean of love. Whatever words one may use, one has to know that this state is to be achieved. Is no use of describing any state that is not yet experienced. But by describing it at least people try to move towards it and work it out.
Now what is your freedom.? Your freedom is that you do not have to bound yourself with any mental effort of rules and regulations but innately or effortlessly you should feel the protocol or you should have the protocol built in, in your being.
This is the way we can understand the complete freedom that we do not have to mentally tell ourselves, that we have to do like this, we have to do like that, but spontaneously it acts in your being and you start a new life of spontaneous behaviour towards your Guru ."
Palazzo Doria, Cabella, Italy, 2 October 1991
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OPEN THE AGYA AFTER REALIZATION
One has to read all these books and all these instructions to put in an effort to go into Meditation. All these efforts are actually to lead to the conviction that meditative state is to be achieved through effortless surrendering.
Up to the Agnya centre is all right when you are trying to say different mantras but you will find all the time that the Kundalini stops or is blocked at the Agnya.
So those who are in bhakti they just have to become silent and effortless.
So the Kundalini passes through Agnya and clears out through Sahasrara.
With bhakti only you can counteract your Agnya.
Now the situation of ascent at Agnya is the most difficult. The reason is if you try to, by pulling or pushing your Kundalini through Agnya, you are using an effort: once you use the effort you block your Agnya. So at the blockage of Agnya if you just leave the Kundalini to work it out by itself, then your Agnya will be cleared out. But in bhakti with full heart if you are singing or if you are taking my Name then automatically Agnya opens.
Try to maintain that state through your--again-the sustenance of bhakti.
So the important thing in Sahaja Yoga is after realization we must completely surrender ourselves to the enjoyment of bhakti.
Those who have achieved that, they get this effortless ascent through the Agnya very easily. It cannot be explained, as l said . There is no rule and regulation for bhakti but definitely it can be seen in other Sahaja Yogis who are just in that state of bliss.You can find out that there is adoration from their heart for their Guru and an awe. They do not say, 'No', they do not question, they do not guide or correct their Guru. They just are in an absorbing state, as if a big ocean is pouring into them the joy and the bliss.
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| Your Guru... |
How they behave and how they talk to their Guru is very important. For example some people come very close to Me, they know how to look after Me, they know how to rub My feet or maybe they know how to look after My food and My day-to-day needs but still if they do not have that protocol, if they do not have that innate idea of reverence and a deep adoration then they are not yet at that stage where they should be. And gradually such people then go on falling because they still have not yet fathomed the depth of their being which can respond to the greatness of their Guru.
lt is a very delicate thing for Me to tell you how to behave and sometimes it upsets Me and shocks Me when people start taking liberties in a way that will be responsible for their fall or for their losing their state.
I find it impossible to tell them that they must learn how to speak to Me and how to behave towards Me .
I have seen that most of the leaders have this sense and have this capacity to absorb this ocean of love and joy.
But there are so many Sahaja Yogis who are still-though they may be very close to Me--are not up to the point that they should be. Sometimes they argue, sometimes they deny, sometimes they defy.
Now one may ask that this kind of surrendering may lead to your slavery. In slavery you get pain, torture and unhappiness but in this slavery you get joy, complete freedom, strength and the beauty of your own glory. So whether you call it as a slavery or anything it makes no difference to the quality of this surrendering which is very very important if you want to discover your own glory .
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| Ksham, ksham... |
Some people have a habit of dominating, so when they are close to Me, they try to dominate Me also. Or if they have the habit of arguing, when they are close to Me, they start arguing with Me. That behaviour has to be changed. The way you talk to each other you cannot talk in the same manner to your Guru because your Guru is at a much higher position and you have to realize that if you have to reach that state of 'Turya' then you must put your Guru above everybody else.
"l never asked you to read Gurugita because it is too much to be told to Sahaja Yogis, too much to be asked from Sahaja Yogis. l feel there are so many Sahaja Yogis who are still not there at the point to understand what this surrendering means and that is the reason I just never wanted you to read Gurugita which was told by Shri Mahadeva to Parvati.
That state of surrendering is not with efforts, not with thinking, but has to come effortlessly. It's like dissolving a drop of your personality into the ocean of love. Whatever words one may use, one has to know that this state is to be achieved. Is no use of describing any state that is not yet experienced. But by describing it at least people try to move towards it and work it out.
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| Effortlessly... |
This is the way we can understand the complete freedom that we do not have to mentally tell ourselves, that we have to do like this, we have to do like that, but spontaneously it acts in your being and you start a new life of spontaneous behaviour towards your Guru ."
Palazzo Doria, Cabella, Italy, 2 October 1991
